7 responses to “Tynt Tracer: Useful analytics software or invasion of privacy?”

  1. Disclosure: I work for Tynt. :)

    …and I welcome the discussion on the topic you’ve brought forward. It is very important to us that we make it clear that Tynt doesn’t track any personally identifiable information — we don’t see ourselves as an ‘enforcement tool’ but rather an automated bibliography (for the end user) and a user engagement monitoring tool for the content publisher.

    Let me point out how Tynt Tracer actually works. You are correct that it tracks a user’s engagement on a website much like any other analytics tool (Google Analytics, Omniture, Webtrends, etc) however we believe that the more useful information is not necessarily page views and ‘time on page’, but rather, what pages (and content) specifically draw a user to take action and share (or preserve) that content.

    As an added feature of the tool, publishers can have an attribution link added to any text that is copied. This attribution link is feature optional (on by default) and is added to the copied text as it moves from the web page into the users clipboard dynamically. From there, we aren’t actually ‘in’ a user’s PC at all. When the paste of the clipboard occurs, the user can certainly remove the attribution link if desired. If the link is ever clicked upon, we can see that information through the referring links in the analytics side, in the same way that other web analytics tools work. I assure you there is nothing executing outside of the browser on your PC!

    We are very transparent with what we are doing and I welcome the discussion and any suggestions as the tool is still in Beta and we are continuing to make modifications to it as we move towards a shipping product.

    Cheers!

    Derek

  2. I think it’s a cool idea! Started using it and I’m happy with it. The only problem that I do have with it is, that all those codes are tracked in Omniture’s Site Catalyst – is there any way to get them ignored? Or hidden? Thanks.

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  3. [...] to Tynt’s webservers and adds the backlinks. Tynt calls that a service for the site owner, many people call that a privacy invasion. Worse, there are some reports that it sends not just what you copy, but everything you select. And [...]

  4. Tynt is much more invasive than Derek would have us think. If you simply *select* some text — no copying or pasting — Tynt can/will send that text to Tynt. Even if “Tynt doesn’t track any personally identifiable information” they certainly have the power to do so. Do you want to trust them?

    Here is a link showing how you can verify this behaviour:
    http://activerain.com/blogsview/1159317/have-you-tynt-ed-your-blog-yet-#5029815

  5. My approach is to nuke these kinds of invasive anti-internet cancers by dropping their domain names into my hosts file as 127.0.0.1 (actually, I usually point them at my web server so the connections work and 404 quickly) and add their IP ranges to my firewall. My machines never connect to the likes of quantserve or google-analytics.. or tynt, as soon as I do a few lookups and go see how some sites that use them work.

  6. The ability to capture and alter information that is cut from a website is a new concept and needs to be evaluted from a privacy perspective as indicated in the article. My concern is that the collection of information may be used to identify personal informatoin associated with an IP address or cookie and could span across multiple websites. It also seems possible to alter content that is copied based on unknown rules to the end user, resulting in frustration of the user and the devaluing of the cut and paste function.
    This is not just analytics.

  7. I understand your frustration. For over a decade I ran one of the largest and oldest music & digital news websites. It was highly ranked in Google and Alexa. We were getting 2.5M hits monthly, about 20-30% of them unique. Understandably there was some poaching of text.

    At first I was upset – I’d spend hours each week tracing down copies of my articles – then I had a revelation.

    My articles aren’t unique. If I hadn’t written them, someone else would have. The way I word them may have been more or less interesting, but people were still coming to my site in vast numbers – they weren’t going to other sites that were copying my text. I was making enough cash to make me happy, so what more could I want?

    I opened up the entire bloody thing – many thousands of articles and tens of thousands of man-hours – on the Creative Commons license.

    My content is not so unique that it requires violating my readers trust – and neither is yours.

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